Used Metal Stamping Presses

When looking for used stamping presses for sale from dealers, it’s important to use one that has experience. Years of service in the industry go a long way. Also looking for one with a wide reach in the market place. Here are some things to consider when looking for used stamping presses.

The condition of the press is important, but can be deceiving. Presses run in messy environments full of lubricant and grease. This can leave a machine looking messy and in poor shape. However, that may not be the case and can fool the untrained eye. It is possible to find a very dirty looking press that is actually an excellent machine. In some cases, the plant maintenance people just didn’t have high standards for keeping things pretty, but may have kept things in excellent mechanical condition.

Consider the brand as well. Top brands are Minster, Bliss, Aida, Schuler and Komatsu. Other good brands are Danly, Clearing and some like Niagara. Bliss presses probably has made the most presses of anybody. Minster usually demands top dollar for there used machines. Some of those companies are not out of business. Bliss Clearing Niagara is all combined in one company now. You can buy a new one from them, however they are very expensive.

What type of machine do you need. OBI, hydraulic, mechanical, knuckle joint, transfer or servo? Consider what speeds you need to operate at. Another big concern is the bed area. Make sure you are purchasing a machine that will have the minimum bed area for your projects. If you are a job shop and do runs for other companies, then a larger bed will allow you to take on a wider range of jobs. If the press will be single purpose, then you may not need a bed size larger than exactly what is required.  When considering used metal stamping presses for sale, also about the age.  You will likely ignore the controls on the machine, because they will likely need to be updated anyway.

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Die Handler, Carts and Trucks

Die handlers are used to remove and transport dies from metal stamping presses or plastic injection molding machines.  They are very specialized for this purpose and typically handle high capacities.  They go from 20,000lb to 200,000lb capacity.  Die removal is an especially dangerous time because the die can be damaged.  Some dies are very heavy.  The cost of repair isn’t the only consideration here.  The down time while the die is repaired is the real killer of money here.  Repair can cost many tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, depending upon the complexity and level of damage.

40,000lb.Elwell

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This is where die handlers can save money, time and headache.  Some plants use forklifts for this job, however they aren’t always the best tool for the job if space is tight.  If space isn’t tight, then the plant manager may elect to use a forklift to remove the die, then place it on a die cart to be towed by a forklift.  Die handlers typically have a setup that allows for pushing or pulling of a die. This makes it much easier for getting a die out or putting one in.  Especially with hard to get to spots.  Many times plastic injection molding machines are put together pretty tightly because there is limited space on the plant floor.  Forklifts need a wide area of swing to get in and out between the machines, however die trucks or handlers do not.

New die handlers are very expensive.  Many companies opt to find a used machine and save huge amounts of money.  The other side of the coin is, that, there aren’t really that many sources for used machines.  Popular brands are Elwell Parker, Rico, Erickson, Yale and Autolift.  Some of those companies are now out of business, but parts can be found.

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Used Hydraulic and Mechanical Presses

Hydraulic and mechanical metal stamping presses are pretty much the most common.  We have included some photos of them.  Hydraulic presses are typically slower and are commonly found in foundries.  The can be very high capacity.  If I recall, the largest presses are in Russia, France and in Ohio USA.  They are huge stamping presses used for avaiation related parts.  They are also used for tryout presses.  Mechanical presses are much more common.  You can see these in automotive to lawnmowers to metal sink manufacturing.  They are able to opperate at much higher speeds or SPM.

Used metal stamping presses have become much more difficult to locate in larger tonnage sizes.  Much of this was because the year 2008 and the heavy economic downturn.  With high scrap prices and no demand for the machines, many where scraped by struggling automotive companies.  When the economy picked up, this created a huge void in the used market.

Common brands are Bliss, Minster, Niagara, Clearing, Komatsu, Aida, Blow and Danly.  All are good presses. Minster is typically the most liked of the brands. Bliss probably made more than anybody else.  Bliss, Clearing and Niagara where all bought out and  combined by a single company.  If I recall, they are owned by a German company.  There are other good brands out there too.

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Here are a few press pictures:

Danly 3 1,500 Bliss 2

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Sherline vs Taig With Upgrades?

Sherline vs Taig With Upgrades?

In the world of mini or benchtop mills and lathes, two names come to mind; Sherline and Taig. Both are good machines, however both have some major weaknesses. Thankfully, those weaknesses can be fixed through a few upgrades from a company called GlockCNC.com. Anyway, let’s look at some differences.

The Sherline Mill vs Taig Mill

Side by side, it’s pretty clear that the Taig is a much more robust machine. The work envelope is also much larger on the Taig. Where the Sherline shines is the number of accessories and flexibility with odd angles. Keep in mind though, with those odd angles come a real lack of rigidity. After using both machines, it’s clear that the Taig’s box-way linear system is hands-down more rigid than the Sherline. Thankfully, both companies now offer ballscrews, which are the better way to go for CNC application. So what are the downfalls of both? Frankly, it’s the headstock and motor. Both headstocks very small, if not anemic. The tooling sizes end up being very limited. This is especially true with the Taig mill, because it could certainly handle bigger cutters. The other issue is the motors. Both companies have very weak motors. One company out there has come up with the best solution yet; GlockCNC.com (and they are really the only one out there with industrial quality). How have they improved Sherline and Taig.

Simply put, they offer much more heavy duty headstocks and motors. Plus, a wide variety of spindle options. While they will sell stock Sherline casing headstocks with ER, R8 or MT3 spindles, their own Heavy Duty Commercial Headstocks are the way to go. You get much larger bearings than would ever fit in the Sherline or Taig OEM casing. Plus, you can choose from deep grove or angular contact bearings. And get this, they come with upgraded ABEC-5 deep grove bearings with the option of ABEC-7 or ABEC-9! It gets even better…. They will also do a secondary grind operation for those demanding the highest level of accuracy. In other words, they will shrink the bearings to the spindle, then grind the collet contact surface area to match the bearing accuracy. Frankly, this is only found on much bigger and high end commercial machines. After looking at their prices, I’m sure you’ll agree that they are a bargain for what you get. I’m thinking that as they become more popular, you’ll probably see the prices rise. At this point, their prices are very reasonable when you compare them to a high end Swiss made machine.

The Sherline Lathe vs Taig Lathe

Taig offers two types of lathes, bed lathe and gang tool type. While Sherline pretty much offers one type that can be converted into a gang type. The Taig bed type lathe is tiny. Almost unusable for many unless you’re doing super small parts. The Sherline offers a much longer bed, but there are some issues. The biggest problem with the Sherline (aside from the headstock and motor…again), is the saddle isn’t rigid at all! The deflection is very frustrating. The Taig on the other hand, it seems to produce much less deflection and therefore better results. The gang tool Taig is far and away my favorite of all the options. It’s rigid and will hold plenty of tools. Of course, there’s no tail stock with this type. Again, here’s the rub for both Sherline and Taig….it’s the headstock and motor. Just read the above about the mills. The other lathe specific issue is the very small through hole in the OEM spindle. GlockCNC has solved that issue with a .55″ to .79″ through hole option. As far as motor upgrades, they offer a 750 watt and 1,200 watt upgrade. Both can be manually controlled or CNC.

Check out the upgrades at GlockCNC, plus they are also Sherline, Taig and Tormach TTS dealers…so, they can get you whatever you need: https://glockcnc.com/

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Toxic Environments in Homes and Businesses

– Nausea – Regular mold produces cold or sinus symptoms, but poisonous mold might impact your stomach and digestive system. If you are experiencing flu-like signs, you have been poisoned by harmful black mold and must seek medical help.

Mold prevails in all our houses and doesn’t usually cause any extreme illness. It packs you up, makes your eyes red, offers you a cough or a headache; it’s a discomfort and ought to be got rid of, however it’s not deadly.

– Asthma. The exact causes of asthma are unidentified, however studies have revealed that exposure to poisonous mold, specifically in youth, can lead to the development of asthma. It may be an indicator that there is toxic black mold present if you discover yourself establishing asthma-like signs.

– Nausea – Regular mold produces cold or sinus symptoms, however poisonous mold may impact your stomach and gastrointestinal system. Since the toxicity can affect any part of your body, this is. If you are experiencing flu-like signs, you have actually been poisoned by toxic black mold and ought to seek medical aid.

If you suffer any of these symptoms, or presume that you might have toxic black mold, you need to employ an inspector to check your home. They can take samples from the mold itself, or check the air for spores. They will send these samples to a laboratory for analysis and inform you what they discover. If you discover any mold at all in your home, you must eliminate it as quickly as possible and eliminate the conditions that allow it to grow.

If you find yourself developing asthma-like signs, it may be an indicator that there is toxic black mold present.

However, there are some varieties of black mold that have toxicity. Extended exposure to hazardous mold can result in serious, life-threatening issues. This is why you have to know the symptoms of black mold toxicity.

– Skin rashes and hives. Your skin does not like hazardous mold and will do anything it can to withstand it. When they are exposed to poisonous mold, this is why some people experience rashes and other skin issues. It is a natural response to the black mold’s toxicity, and you should see a doctor instantly.

– Bleeding Lungs – In severe cases of hazardous black mold poisoning, you might suffer bleeding in the lungs. This is really severe and will require hospitalization. At this moment, the toxicity is well inside your system.

– Dizziness or light-headedness. This frequently opts for the sinus signs, and is an indication that the mold in your home consists of some toxicity. It implies that the mold spores that have entered your body have actually released contaminants that are troubling your entire system.

– Sinus difficulty. The most common sign of exposure to black mold is sinus difficulty. This includes nasal blockage, runny nose and sinus headaches. These sinus symptoms are brought on by both non-toxic and poisonous mold, so with this sign alone it might be challenging to inform for sure.

– Bleeding Lungs – In severe cases of hazardous black mold poisoning, you may suffer bleeding in the lungs. If you suffer any of these signs, or presume that you might have toxic black mold, you must hire an inspector to evaluate your house.

– Cough and sore throat – If you have a cough or aching throat that simply won’t go away, you may be suffering from black mold exposure. Regular mold is hazardous to health and can trigger some coughing and throat irritation, but if it is continuous, that is a sign that the black mold contains some toxicity.

– Fatigue – Toxic black mold can make you feel lethargic and exhausted all the time, even when you’ve had an excellent night’s sleep. Black mold’s toxicity has an impact on your body immune system, breaking down your body’s natural defenses, and this can cause excessive fatigue.

If spores enter your respiratory system, the toxicity of the mold can work on your brain. This is why some individuals who have actually been poisoned by black mold lose their memory or hearing.

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